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Mulholland Drive

Beitrag von Diamond » So 03 Okt, 2004 12:37 am

Kann mir mal jemand den Film erklären? Ich hab überhaupt nichts verstanden, wirklich nichts! Bis dahin wo Rita in die blaue Kiste guckt, okay, aber alles danach und wie es mit dem ersten Teil des Films zusammenhängen soll, versteh ich nicht. Kann man das überhaupt verstehen? Soll man das verstehen und MUSS man das überhaupt verstehen? :ugly:
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Beitrag von Palmolive » So 03 Okt, 2004 11:33 am

Ich bin gestern eingeschlafen, als Rita und Betty (so hießen die beiden doch?) miteinander geschlafen haben :ugly: :( Aber ich denke, der Film soll so verwirrend sein und jeder soll sich seine eigenen Gedanken dazu machen.
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Beitrag von Athena » So 03 Okt, 2004 2:29 pm

Ich glaube, es gibt hier schon irgendwo einen alten Thread mit vielen Liebhabern und Hassern des Films - wie mich. Ich rätsele ja gern, aber wenn's zu wirr wird, erscheint es mir sinnlos und nervig. Ich hasse David Lynch :ugly:
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Beitrag von Spike_rocks » So 03 Okt, 2004 11:38 pm

Ich kann Dir den Film leider auch nicht erklären. Kann mich auch an kaum noch was erinnern, ausser dass mir alle 10 Sekunden ein "Häh?" durch den Kopf ging. Meine Freundinnen haben hinterher noch drüber diskutiert und versucht 'nen Sinn reinzubringen, aber da hab ich schon gar nicht mehr zugehört. Sehe das ebenso wie Athena - man kann's auch übertreiben.
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Beitrag von WillowAndTara » Fr 08 Okt, 2004 7:23 pm

ja, athena ich kann mich daran erinnern..dass du david lynchs filme nicht so wirklich magst.

Aber...ich muss auch einfach mal auf den älteren thread verweisen. lol. keine ahnung wo das war...

glaub..da habsch auch was erklärt.

ich denke mal, dass er film so konzeptiert ist, dass man ihn nicht versteht beim ersten Mal sehen ;)

ich find den film genial...*hr*

http://www.filmzentrale.com/rezis/mulhollanddrive.htm

im grunde sind es nur fiktikionen und traumversionen von Betty bzw. rita :) ...die trotzallem miteinander verknüpft sind.

-> Habsch grad entdeckt.lol

1)Diane wins a JitterBug Contest. There's an old couple with her when she wins. Maybe they are the judges. They ARE NOT her parents. Either way, winning the contest sparks her interest in acting (she says this later).

2)While auditioning for a role she really wants in the movie The Sylvia North Story, Diane meets Camilla. Even though Camilla gets the role, the two become friends (Diane says this later). Camilla helps Diane get some small parts, and, Diane falls in love with Camilla. The two begin a relationship.

3)While Diane watches Camilla on the set of one of Camilla's next movies, the Director, Adam, feels the need to show the lead male actor how to kiss Camilla for the scene. But Adam orders everybody off the set (Camilla asks if Diane can stay and watch). Adam and Camilla kiss while Diane, getting jealous, watches from the side. Adam and Camilla seem to be enjoying themselves a bit too much. Adam yells for the stage lights to be dimmed so he can continue to kiss Camilla in private. Is Camilla cheating on Diane with Adam? Probably.

4)So at Diane's apartment, we see Diane and Camilla "fooling around" on the couch (Diane is topless only wearing light blue jean shorts. Camilla's breasts are exposed also but she has black sleeves on). Even though Camilla says, "You drive me wild" to Diane to make her feel good, after a few seconds of foreplay Camilla eventually says, "We should'nt do this anymore". Diane fires back with, " Don't say that". Camilla responds with, "I've tried to tell you this before". Diane says, "It's him (Adam), isn't it"?

5)Next, Diane is kicking Camilla out of her front door. They obviously had a big fight about Adam. Camilla, trying to hold open the door, says, " Don't be mad". Diane yells, " It's not easy for me and I'm not gonna make it easy for you"! (Diane is wearing a see-through grey top and light blue jean shorts while Camilla is wearing the red top with black sleeves).

6)Diane, wearing the see-through grey top and light blue jean shorts, is hysterically crying and masturbating on her couch. She is wildly depressed and mad.

7)[IMPORTANT SCENE. Pay attention when watching]
At Diane's apartment, we see Diane dressed up in a dark red one-piece dress, obviously dressed for going out. The phone near the tree-based lamp with red lamp-shade rings. Diane looks as if she shouldnt answer it and screens the call by letting her answering machine pick up. We hear Diane's machine greeting say, "Hello it's me, leave a message" (Diane will incorporate that greeting into her dream when Betty and Rita call the " D. Selwyn" from the phonebook). It's Camilla calling, she says, " Diane"? Diane now picks up the phone and we hear Camilla say, " The car (Limo) is waiting. You coming?". Diane seems cautious, like maybe she shouldnt go. Diane seems like she doesn't want to go, but does because she still loves Camilla. Besides, Camilla said " it means so much to me". Camilla tells Diane the address is 6980 Mulholland Drive. Diane goes in the back of the Limo but the Limo stops. Diane tells the driver, "What are you doing? We don't stop here" (remember those words). Its a surprise. Camilla comes DOWN from out of the woods to greet Diane and take her via a shortcut back through the woods to a party Adam is throwing (at the same locaton where Diane dreams Rita has her accident) . At the party, Diane meets Adam's mom, Coco (she'll be the landlord in Diane's dream). At the table during this party, Diane is obviously not too happy to see Camilla so close to Adam. Anyway, she mentions that she won a JitterBug contest which sparked her interest in acting. She also mentions that her Aunt Died. Diane says she met Camilla on the audition/set of The Sylvia North Story, a part that Diane really wanted, but Camilla got. We hear Camilla, in Spanish, say, "Yo nunca fue a Casablanca con Luigi " ("I never went to Casablanca with Luigi" ). A few guys at the table respond with, "yeah, right" ("que va" in Spanish). Diane also says that Bob Brooker, the Director of The Sylvia North Story, didnt like her. Diane tells them that after Camilla and her became friends, Camilla helped her get parts/roles.
Now you'll hear Adam say, "So I got the pool, and she got the pool-man" (obviously speaking about an ex-wife of his). As Adam and Camilla are about to make an important, seemingly romantic announcement, a woman whispers in Camilla's ear. Then Camilla and this woman make-out. This clearly upsets Diane. When this woman walks away, Diane see's her pass by a man in a Cowboy Hat (Diane will later put this woman and that Cowboy in her dream). Now, Diane, after sipping her espresso in this moment of torment and uncomfortableness, looks up and across the room at some older guy (Diane will later make this "older guy" become the older Castigliante Brother who spits out the espresso). Diane is twitching and agitated. Finally, Adam and Camilla announce that they're engaged to be married.

8)At Winkies Diner, Diane (wearing a white, sleevless shirt with an angel print) meets the hitman she must have just hired to kill Camilla. The hitman has a black-book with him set on the table. Diane doesnt know what its for (and neither do we), but, it'll pop up in her dream later). The waitress, who pours them coffee, is wearing a nametag that reads: BETTY (now you know where she gets the name "Betty" from). Diane shows the hitman a photo of Camilla and says, "This is the girl" (remember those words). The hitman, holding up a blue key, says, "When it's finished, you'll find it where I told you" (in other words, when the hitman kills Camilla, he'll hide the key near the dumpster behind Winkies). As the Hitman is holding up the blue key to show Diane, Diane looks over to the Winkies register and notices a mid-aged man looking back at them (Diane thinks this man knows what they are doing and will later dream him to be Dan, a guy who has nightmares about Winkies and a monster). Diane asks, "What's it (the blue key) open"? The hitman just laughs. (So, because Diane asked what the blue-key opens, it shows up in her dream as a mysterious blue key...that eventually opens a mysterious blue box).

9)Time goes by...(Camilla must be dead because, although we're not shown it yet, Diane has the blue key on her coffee table. You'll see it when she wakes up)...and Diane go's to sleep with guilt (we're shown this in the first person mode from Diane's point of view going down into the pillow from the beginning of the movie). Now Diane dreams.....

DIANE IS ABOUT TO INCORPORATE ALL THE ABOVE REAL EVENTS INTO HER DREAM...although they pop up in different forms, names, visuals...


auch nichts neues eigentlich :cheesy:
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